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How native speakers pronounce “penaliz

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that rewards people for donating to charity versus penaliz them by taking them further down on the Forbes list? (Applause)

The Problem with Billionaires — and the Debut of True Net Worth | Randall Lane | TED · TED

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that rewards people for donating to charity versus penaliz them by taking them further down on the Forbes list? (Applause)

The Problem with Billionaires — and the Debut of True Net Worth | Randall Lane | TED · TED